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Written by The Miz   
Thursday, 28 January 2010 12:46
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No matter how well a given professional sports team might be playing, there are always critics and detractors to temper enthusiasm. When the Caps are playing well, those voices tend to come from either side of the Keystone State. We've all heard the "Caps have no Cup" and "it's only January" arguments, but since division realignment, the most common hit on our Capitals is the fact that they play in the NHL's weakest division. Not that I'm a John Buccigross disciple, but I do read his "Mother of all Mailbags," and this particular inquiry bugged me yesterday (and let's give Bucci some credit for sticking up for our Caps with regards to goals against):

John,

You continue to put Washington in Bucci's Power 5. Are the Washington Capitals that good or is it just because they play in a terrible division? They play four of the worst five teams in the East six times each. Put them in the Atlantic or Northeast Divisions to play good teams, and I think their point total would be much lower.

Chris Mullin
Unionville, Pa.

Let's go ahead and ignore the fact that this dude lives less than forty minutes north of Steeltown and just look at his argument. This morning the Caps woke up with a 21-point lead over the second place Panthers, with an opportunity to extend that canyon-sized gap tomorrow night. It doesn't help a strength-of-schedule argument when you look at the Caps' extremely intradivisional record (which stands at 10-2-0) either. For the sake of argument, let's look at the East's top four seeds and how they stack up against their own divisions as well as the others. How do their points break down? How would they do in the other Eastern divisions?

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GP vs. East vs. ATL vs. NE vs. SE
42 30-11-1 10-4-0
8-3-1

12-4-0


PPG vs. East PPG vs. ATL PPG vs. NE PPG vs. SE
1.45 1.43 1.42 1.5

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GP vs. East vs. ATL vs. NE vs. SE
39 23-11-5 8-4-2 8-3-3 7-4-0

PPG vs. East PPG vs. ATL PPG vs. NE PPG vs. SE
1.31 1.29 1.36 1.27

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GP vs. East vs. ATL vs. NE vs. SE
40 26-14-0 10-6-0 9-4-0 7-4-0

PPG vs. East PPG vs. ATL PPG vs. NE PPG vs. SE
1.3 1.25 1.38 1.27

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GP vs. East vs. ATL vs. NE vs. SE
40 27-8-5 9-3-3 8-3-2

10-2-0


PPG vs. East PPG vs. ATL PPG vs. NE PPG vs. SE
1.48 1.4 1.38 1.67

What does all of this mean? Well first of all, the Caps have an equal or higher points-per-game total against each division in the Eastern Conference than the other top-four seeds. That being said, they're also WAY better against their own division than any other team, and they get the advantage of playing those teams a total of 24 games (four teams, six games each) as opposed to 20 games for each of the other guys (five teams, four games each). Obviously if the Caps played fewer games against the Southeast and more against the other divisions, their point total would be lower, but how much so?

Let's first extrapolate these PPG totals over a full Eastern Conference season schedule. In the current format, each team plays their own division 24 times and the other two a total of 40 games, so this covers 64 games of the 82-game season. If each team earns points at the same rate against each division, we can figure out how many points they would get if they were placed in the Southeast, Northeast, and Atlantic Divisions in a given season. Here's how the teams' Eastern Conference points shake out under the current division alignment:

  1. Capitals 95.68 Points
  2. Devils 92.72 Points
  3. Sabres 83.84 Points
  4. Penguins 83.00 Points

Now let's compare that number to how they would perform in the other two divisions using the same PPG model:

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In Southeast: 95.68 Points
In Northeast: 94.52 Points
In Atlantic: 94.60 Points

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In Southeast: 93.00 Points
In Northeast: 92.68 Points
In Atlantic: 92.72 Points

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In Southeast: 83.48 Points
In Northeast: 83.84 Points
In Atlantic: 83.56 Points

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In Southeast: 83.08 Points
In Northeast: 83.52 Points
In Atlantic: 83.00 Points

Based on these statistics, the point totals change slightly, but the standings wouldn't. The biggest gap when you shift divisions is a one-point difference, which is only significant in a razor-thin playoff race. The Caps have the greatest point total no matter what division they're placed in, while the Devils come in a close second with the Sabres and Pens in a distant third and fourth. I understand that this model doesn't take fatigue into consideration. For example, someone might say that the Caps don't wear down against non-divisional opponents because they play so many easy teams in their division. However, this effectively proves that the Caps earn more points against conference opponents than any other Eastern Conference contender. While some people think the Caps beef up on weak opponents, this proves that they're more consistent than any other contender, regardless of the level of competition.



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kono22 said:

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im a pretty big caps fan, but your argument has a glaring weakness. the record of all the other opponents vs. the SE INCLUDES the Caps, while the Caps record does not. The Caps being a great team, I haven't done it out and all, but I'd suspect a large portion of the losses of the other division leaders vs. the SE are caused by losing to the Caps.

A real study would have to take the Caps out of the SE, place them into the Atlantic say, then extrapolate their record against those teams from 4 to 6 games, and extrapolate their record against SE teams from 6 games to 4 games. All of which is excessively complicated and beyond me, but I'm just saying - these numbers don't really say much.
 
January 29, 2010
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tdbowles said:

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this is an interesting article. i've thought about this too. the biggest difference for me looks at the current standings in combination with the Caps record against other divisions.
while it is true that everything is quite congested in spots 6-8 in the eastern conference, currently there are three SE teams, three Atl. teams and 2 NE teams that would be in the playoffs if the season ended today. that says just as much to me as anything.
the other thing to consider is playoffs. folks in philly have nothing to brag on us for now because while they may be happy about their cups from the past, which no one can take away from them, this year and last the Caps have taken 11 out of 16 points. As for the Pens, we have taken 9 out of a possible 10 points in our regular season games. until we beat them in teh playoffs, they have the upper-hand. the flyers are clearly not as good as we were the last two years. all that being said, i don't want to see the flyers in teh 1st roudn this year.
right now though, there is no doubt we are the best team in teh east. let's see what happens.

 
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The Miz said:

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I understand your point Kono, and I saw that weakness beforehand...I wish I had the time to do PPG for each of these four teams vs. every EC opponent, but I just don't have that kind of time...I'm sorry. It was just a quick look at the argument. However, to say that these numbers don't matter isn't 100% true. While the Caps don't have to play themselves, neither do the other three teams. They lose the toughest opponent out of their division (save the Pens, who sit in 2nd place) when these PPG stats are calculated as well, and that doesn't make a 10 point difference in the the standings anyway.

This DOES prove that the Devils, Pens and Sabres haven't had as much success with SE opponents as the Caps. The Pens only get 1.4 PPG vs. non-DC SE teams, and the Sabres get 1.5. When you take the Caps out of the equation for the Devils, their PPG stays at 1.5. All three of those figures are still significantly LOWER than the Caps' 1.67 PPG rate against the same opponents, the overall point gap might close a little for the Sabres and Penguins but not ten points-worth. It wouldn't even make a difference for the Devils' point totals above. Finally, each team has played the three divisions at least ten times, so that allows for a pretty big sample size.

All I'm saying is that the whole "Southleast" argument is flawed in the first place. My numbers aren't perfect, but they do indicate that Pens/Flyers fans are out of line when they spout off at the mouth about it.

Thanks for reading, and I do appreciate the comments!
 
January 29, 2010
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iwearstripes said:

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If you really want to take the "caps effect" out of it..
"The Caps being a great team, I haven't done it out and all, but I'd suspect a large portion of the losses of the other division leaders vs. the SE are caused by losing to the Caps..."

Its also important when assessing how bad the SE is, to view the records of the teams without their losses to the Caps. The Caps being 10-2 in their division makes the rest of the division look even worse, because their records reflect losses to the Caps (who have an 83% win percentage in their division).

The Pens have about a 64% win percentage in the SE division, 70% if you exclude games against the caps.

The Devils are 12-4 vs. SE opponents (3-1 against the Caps). Even after adjusting for wins/losses against the Caps, the Devils have a 75% win percentage in the SE division, still below the Caps figure.

If the Southeast is so terrible, shouldn't these other teams be beating up on their non Caps SE division opponents as bad as the caps are?
 
January 29, 2010
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The Miz said:

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That was basically my point in the last post Stripes, but I think you put it in better terms. The Caps are beating up on these guys far worse than the other elite teams have. The reason they look so bad is because the division leader has been so damn good.
 
January 29, 2010
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